posted by like_that
It's pretty damn apparent that Obama's foreign policy was a pile of shit.
Inb4 ptown still defends his foreign policy or tries to tell you that you are NOT ALLOWED to bring up Obama.
I will be fair though, at this point wtf do you do with Syria? It's a poison pill (no pun intended) situation.
Yeah, I concur. Obama's Syrian policy, and I said at the time, was shit. He waited too long to do anything and took the "easy" way out with the Russian plan for chemical weapons and the OPWC and verification.
I get it from his point of view, he did not want to pull the trigger and get us into another Middle Eastern conflict. But, this is essentially, his Rwanda. Like Clinton did nothing then, Obama did nothing for Syria.
It's a damn shame and most of the problems today could be traced back to that inaction. Iran, Russia, and Turkey are now making that place a fucking mess.
As for Trump, yeah, there are no good options. He got a shitty hand. I understand his view to try and pull out now that ISIS is nearly gone, but we cannot let Syria become a base for Iran and Russia. I'm not sure if that means backing the Kurds more, backing Turkey at all, supporting Israeli strikes more, letting Assad win, but saying he must kick out Iran, I don't know....
posted by gut
At this point, he really accomplished nothing other than Obamacare. He truly was a lousy leader....spent the middle 4 years of his term trying to shame Republicans hoping to win back Congress rather than actually trying to work with them.
Syria, Iran and Cuba all seemed forced and rushed in a last ditch effort to have SOMETHING for his legacy.
I'd agree he was pretty piss poor at working with Congress, but in his defense, they did not really want to work with him either. Rs were just as willing to wait Obama out as well. Neither side wanted to play ball, hence the fucked up years and Government shutdowns of the 2nd term.