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posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

He kind of had Robert E. Lee confused with an Irish pirate “Don’t fight uphill me boys.”

Respectfully disagree.  He had Lee confused with Longstreet and the "my" "me" confusion with Pickets quote from the movie was from the Irish sergeant on the Union side.

posted by Heretic

Lol, I read about that. The last couple days have been GREAT for our two prospective "leaders". Biden with that story and Trump with some bizarre Gettysburg story where Robert E. Lee was very against fighting uphill "me boys". Combine them into one person and you might have 60% of a working brain. Might.

Biden was elected to the US Senate in 1972 the same year I was born.  He feels the need to project hardships.  Trump on the other hand is confused by his recolction of  watching "Gods and Generals" Longstreet did not want to fight uphill and Picket fell off his horse and got back up wondering what happened to "his boys" and Lee failed. 

posted by CenterBHSFan

People are still pushing Gavin Newsome for a dem presidency (replace Biden). The idea has escaped Twitter and is now being talked about and/or pushed on YouTube, Rumble and all the other social medias.

Not going to happen.  Too many people behind the scenes with a lot of power that would be lost.  Plus Gavin does not have an uncle that was shot down during WWII over New Guinea and devoured by cannibals. 

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Trump also pulled out of the Iran deal. Say what you want about it, but Iran is much closer to a nuclear weapon today than they would have been if the agreement was still in place. 

Nah Iran is just a little more out in the open about it.  Any concessions they can get from the West help move things along.

posted by ptown_trojans_1

People like the option and do not want government restricting them. 

People love government restrictions.  Just not for them.

posted by queencitybuckeye

With rare exception, not true.

Millions believe otherwise.  Judgement of an individual in this country is not left to one person.  It requires a unanimous decision of many.  

Leaving this issue to the smaller forms of government makes sense to me.

posted by queencitybuckeye
Why can't it?

There is another person involved.

posted by Heretic

Seems to me that 2020 did a great job of illustrating that scientific issues can quickly become subjective issues when you have multiple scientific viewpoints on something, leading to people auto-gravitating towards whichever one mirrors their personal views on the matter.

Scientific "issues" are never subjective.  There may be competing theories and hypotheses, but "subjective" is a media-manufactured narrative where certain theories that support the agenda are promoted as "fact" and "consensus" while competing ideas are SUPPRESSED as "pseudo-science", "conspiracy theory" and "alternative facts".

And, yes, Covid provided numerous examples of all of the above.

Go back 20 years and straight news articles were generally separate from editorials, and were pretty balanced in discussing both sides of an argument's strengths and weaknesses.  What passes as straight news today are traditional editorials that skew and slant the facts, and bury counterpoints toward the end of the article.  And today's editorials are straight-up propaganda that resort to distortions and strawmen, if they even acknowledge counterpoints at all.

posted by Heretic

Seems to me that 2020 did a great job of illustrating that scientific issues can quickly become subjective issues when you have multiple scientific viewpoints on something, leading to people auto-gravitating towards whichever one mirrors their personal views on the matter. And when talking about something that is a hot-button issue for many people, it's a guarantee that will be the case.

What you are describing is the most infectious disease known to man.  Its killed more people than any other plague combined.  No one is immune to it and there is no vaccine.  The only treatment for it is reason and logic.

posted by ptown_trojans_1

You can use polling all you want, but state after state is voting to enshrine abortion as an option by more than 52%.

"Enshrine" telling choice of a word when it comes to abortion.  So state after state is making the "correct" choice.  What is everyone on about here?

posted by iclfan2

lol I’ve seen the DEI claims. 

On the contrary, it took a day before the losers complained about the bridge name 

The bridge will get a new name when rebuilt.

posted by Automatik

I'm not sure, I'll have to check.

I haven't been to Charleston since I was in my early teens. I'd love to check it out...but on my own time. 

Yup no tux. Also my GF was invited too....so hassle and cost x 2.

And you will feel even worse in 5yrs when you hear they have divorced.

My wife tells me I am doing something shitty.  She is 100% correct.  I bring up out of the context of the issue that she also does something equally shitty.  Although I am 100% correct that she also at times is equally shitty it is not directly relevant the current issue.  We all know how effective and wrong this arguement is.

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

If there are shitlibs, as you call them, you are blind if you don’t see an equal number of “shitcons”.  

Is there an equal number?  You seem quite certain.  Here in rural Ohio it would seem the shitcons take the cake.  My youngest son who lived in Chicago it would be the shitlibs.  And what about the dontgiveashits?  Maybe we need a study so we know how far down shit creek we really are.

posted by gut

WSJ article I think finally captured what Trump really is - not the end of Democracy and whatever other over-the-top hyperbolic demagogue the Dems would have us believe, but the real problem is how polarizing he is bringing out the worst in people.

I mean, just look at how quickly and easily the Dems chose to ignore the law and, well, Democracy to "get him".  Literally started the day after the election.  And on the other side, Republicans terrified of losing elections can't call out even the most blatant and obvious abuses.

Solid assessment. One good thing about Trump is exposing the bare bones of the parties.  Sadly an opportunity missed.

posted by gut

I still don't understand how 70% of American Jews vote reliability Democrat. 

It looks like Palestinians in Michigan WON'T be voting Democrat this cycle, but they probably still will.

Well when the alternative is voting for an antisemite with islamophobia who is a christian nationalist what choice do you have?

There is a large enough base of people with a nostalgia for fast food that higher prices don't seem to have much of an affect on.  The marketing dilemma they face is how to hook future customer in this manner.

History is rife with nations struggling with how to deal with the Jewish "problem".  In this country the Christian right favors support of Israel.  So double the happiness for progressives if Israel goes away.

Israel has Hamas cornered in Gaza hiding behind civilians in Rafah.  The usual perpetrators are out in full force to keep them from finishing them off. 

posted by geeblock

But this quote was in many news sources correct? 

It was.  Most of those news sources also mocked Romney over his Russia comments as did Obama.  But now Romney is a beacon of wisdom.  They all owe him an apology.  The ironic thing is Russia speak is now a common tool in our domestic politics and a major focus of our foreign policy.

Granddaughters think the game is boring and only get excited at a Taylor Swift sighting.  Good food and we are having fun.