Uranium One / Clinton Foundation / obama DoJ corruption

gut Senior Member
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Wed, May 23, 2018 9:53 AM

I've been skeptitcal of the entire collusion story from the beginning.  And a lot of things I said very early about a possible "conspiracy" are definitely gaining momentum.

Recent reports about implanting a spy or attempted entrapment WOULD be bigger than Watergate, if the liberal media had any objectivity left.  There's also speculation that the whole dossier leak was some sort of gas lighting - they briefed Obama and Trump on it, then leaked the briefing to give the media a reason to report it.

Now, as with nearly everything else in this story, the above may not be true.  The above COULD be leaks intended to weaken and discredit the media, as we've seen many times.  But not all those leaks have been from the anti-Trump people, I don't think.  Pretty obvious some leaks/stories originate from Trump people with the purpose to embarass and discredit WaPo and NYT, among others.

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Wed, May 23, 2018 10:32 AM
posted by gut

Pretty obvious some leaks/stories originate from Trump people with the purpose to embarass and discredit WaPo and NYT, among others.

This wouldn't surprise me, whatsoever.

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Wed, May 23, 2018 2:38 PM

http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/388978-growing-signs-of-a-counterintelligence-operation-deployed-against-trumps

 

Wow .......it's as if we became a third world country under obama.

 

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Wed, Jun 6, 2018 3:12 PM

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/doj-watchdog-finds-comey-defied-authority-fbi-director/story?id=55670834

 

The release of the entire report will be revealing. 

Spock Senior Member
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Thu, Jun 7, 2018 2:22 PM

Not sure how illegal it is but reports on Iran deal doesnt look good for Obama

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Thu, Jun 7, 2018 2:27 PM

And the dem's IT guy is about to sing; there is another cadre of crooks in the whole corruption scene.

gut Senior Member
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Wed, Jun 13, 2018 2:56 PM
posted by QuakerOats

Must be a slow news day at Drudge, considering this was already reported months ago.  I guess now you have emails as proof, but the story had been out there.

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Wed, Jun 13, 2018 3:26 PM

And how about Mueller indicting Russians, and then when one of the Russian parties appears in court Mueller says he should not have to present the evidence.  They called his bluff.  Talk about the bastardization of our judicial system.  Drain the damn swamp now.

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Thu, Jun 14, 2018 12:19 PM

 

"Perhaps the most damaging new revelation in the report, according to multiple people familiar with it, is a previously unreported text message in which Peter Strzok, a key investigator on both the Clinton email case and the investigation of Russia and the Trump campaign, assured an FBI lawyer in August 2016 that “we’ll stop” Trump from making it to the White House."

“[Trump’s] not ever going to become president, right? Right?!” the lawyer, Lisa Page, wrote to Strzok.

“No. No he won’t. We’ll stop it,” Strzok responded.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-receiving-briefing-ahead-of-public-release-of-report-expected-to-criticize-fbi/2018/06/14/c08c6a5a-6fdf-11e8-bf86-a2351b5ece99_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.85b975212f93

8,788 posts 20 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Jun 14, 2018 12:26 PM

LOL.

I love how you just stopped right there.

The very next paragraph in the story:

Though the inspector general condemned individual FBI officials, the report fell significantly short in supporting the assertion by the president and his allies that the investigation was rigged in favor of Clinton, according to a person familiar with its content, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to share findings before the report’s formal release.

8,788 posts 20 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Jun 14, 2018 2:06 PM

IG Report:

https://www.justice.gov/file/1071991/download

gut Senior Member
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Thu, Jun 14, 2018 2:30 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

IG Report:

https://www.justice.gov/file/1071991/download

Oh yeah, going to dive right into that 500 pages! [not]

Basically confirms that Comey was a sanctimonious cowboy who, in a very difficult situation, decided to wing it and ignore protocol.  He (and others) clearly made some political calculations, but there's no evidence of bias.  I'm sure a few others need to go, but the major problems are gone, with the exception of Rosenstein.

They expected Hillary to win, and they didn't want to appear to be part of a cover-up.  I don't think this says much about her server, nor will it change anyone's mind with respect to that.  She probably would not have been successfully prosecuted, and she almost certainly deliberately had the server to evade FOIA disclosures.

This has nothing to do with Russia since that wasn't the IG's focus here.

8,788 posts 20 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Jun 14, 2018 3:20 PM
posted by gut

Oh yeah, going to dive right into that 500 pages! [not]

Basically confirms that Comey was a sanctimonious cowboy who, in a very difficult situation, decided to wing it and ignore protocol.  He (and others) clearly made some political calculations, but there's no evidence of bias.  I'm sure a few others need to go, but the major problems are gone, with the exception of Rosenstein.

They expected Hillary to win, and they didn't want to appear to be part of a cover-up.  I don't think this says much about her server, nor will it change anyone's mind with respect to that.  She probably would not have been successfully prosecuted, and she almost certainly deliberately had the server to evade FOIA disclosures.

This has nothing to do with Russia since that wasn't the IG's focus here.

Oh yeah, I just read the Summary ha. 

I largely agree and that it confirms there was not some vast conspiracy against Trump that some on here like to claim on the run up to the election. 

Sad part is people will cherry pick portions to fit their own narratives. 

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Thu, Jun 14, 2018 3:53 PM
CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Thu, Jun 14, 2018 3:54 PM

In an age where it is a badge of honor to oppose Trump with facts and be recognized and celebrated for doing so... I have never seen so much anonymity/anonymous/not named/nameless/undisclosed "reports and facts and sources" in my lifetime (I was a toddler during Watergate, so unaware).

Does anybody else think this is strange? It's the oddest thing. 

8,788 posts 20 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Jun 14, 2018 4:00 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

In an age where it is a badge of honor to oppose Trump with facts and be recognized and celebrated for doing so... I have never seen so much anonymity/anonymous/not named/nameless/undisclosed "reports and facts and sources" in my lifetime (I was a toddler during Watergate, so unaware).

Does anybody else think this is strange? It's the oddest thing. 

Uhh, it's always been like this...

Welcome to the party......

I guess you don't remember all the Ken Starr leaks on the Clinton investigation or all the leaks during the Bush years? 

8,788 posts 20 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Jun 14, 2018 4:01 PM
posted by QuakerOats

I love how you link to a Fox News report instead of the actual, you know, report itself....

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Thu, Jun 14, 2018 4:39 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Uhh, it's always been like this...

Welcome to the party......

I guess you don't remember all the Ken Starr leaks on the Clinton investigation or all the leaks during the Bush years? 

I absolutely do. Which is why I said my statement exactly the way that I stated it. I think it's similar but there is a wider scope in numbers this go-round. And I'm saying this as somebody who voted for both President Clinton (the biological male) and President Bush and not for Trump. 

I know that many of the legacy medias are fighting for ratings and clicks. However, I think we can all agree that you can oppose Trump on facts - there's no need to stretch imaginations, bait or publish THIS many "those who shall not be named". Especially in light of the fact where you're given a parade of celebrations and attaboys and protections for coming out and stating truths. 

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Thu, Jun 14, 2018 5:12 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

In an age where it is a badge of honor to oppose Trump with facts and be recognized and celebrated for doing so... I have never seen so much anonymity/anonymous/not named/nameless/undisclosed "reports and facts and sources" in my lifetime (I was a toddler during Watergate, so unaware).

Does anybody else think this is strange? It's the oddest thing. 

 

 

You are correct ......it is far worse now than ever. 

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