Sh*thole countries

So for the last year, the left has been screaming about how inhumane it would be to send people back to these countries because they are so bad.  Now, that Trump calls them shitholes, the left has been talking about how great these places are and how he is a racist.

posted by Fab4Runner

Saying that he doesn't want people from shithole countries (AKA brown and black people) to come here, but he DOES want people from Norway (AKA white people) is racist. People keep leaving that last part out, which is insane to me.  

The POTUS is a racist garbage human being. This is just one example. Even if good things happen during this presidency, he sucks. I'd have a lot more respect for his supporters if they'd just admit that he's trash but that they don't care. 

Yes, a few on here basically say that, but most of them I know do not. 

 Come on Fab, he mentioned countries that were currently in crappy conditions he didn’t mention white or brown you and the media did. 

I am not saying he isn’t or is racist just stating that Obama said the exact same thing about Libya and NO ONE called him racist for it. Last I checked, Libya is mostly “brown” people. 

posted by salto

You're wrong.   The context in which Obama used "a shit show" is in no way similar to Trump referring to African countries as shitholes.  If you can not see that, you're delusional.  

100% wrong, but don’t let your obvious bias get in your way...they said the same thing about a country, not its people. Only one of them is being called a racist for it. 

posted by salto

 Therein lies the problem.  Why wouldn't you vote for her?  What was it, in particular?

Yes I agree she's a vile human being, but she's not an idiot like Trump.  She also understands how Washington works, unlike Trump.   

I don’t like her as a person, I don’t like the Clinton machine, I don’t like career politicians, and I definitely don’t like her regressive ideals. “Knowing” how Washington works is not a redeeming quality. 

And before sexism, I’d have voted for Nicki Haley over Trump in a heartbeat. 

Put up shit candidates you get this shit sandwhich.

posted by iclfan2

I don’t like her as a person, I don’t like the Clinton machine, I don’t like career politicians, and I definitely don’t like her regressive ideals. “Knowing” how Washington works is not a redeeming quality. 

And before sexism, I’d have voted for Nicki Haley over Trump in a heartbeat. 

Put up shit candidates you get this shit sandwhich.

Nikki Haley is a rising star in my eyes.

posted by jmog

 Come on Fab, he mentioned countries that were currently in crappy conditions he didn’t mention white or brown you and the media did. 

 

I am not saying he isn’t or is racist just stating that Obama said the exact same thing about Libya and NO ONE called him racist for it. Last I checked, Libya is mostly “brown” people. 

Sorry, but no. He doesn't get the benefit of the doubt from me. He said he does not want people from shithole countries. He said he does want people from Norway. What colors are these people?

The President is racist. There are many examples. Housing discrimination, he is a fucking birther, he called Mexicans rapists and drug dealers, he said an American-born judge couldn't do his job because of his Mexican heritage, he called Nazis very fine poeple, he endorsed Roy Moore, who thinks the last time America was great was during slavery, uses the racial slur Pocahontas...and on and on and on. 

So yeah...no. He will never get the benefit of the doubt from me. He's also a misogynist who has no respect for women. He harasses and assaults them. He's a liar, an adulterer, and an all-around piece of garbage. Like I said...Trump supporters should just admit that he is, but that they don't care. Stop making excuses for the dude. 

posted by Fab4Runner

uses the racial slur Pocahontas...and on and on and on. 

My only real issue with your post is "Pocahontas" is not a racial slur. Only Trump says it and only about one person, and it isn't degrading to Native Americans. I personally find it hilarious that he calls Warren that, she desrves it.

There is no defense imo of your other points because the fuck says dumb shit at every turn, and has a history of saying the same dumb shit before.

posted by Fab4Runner

 

The President is racist. There are many examples. Housing discrimination, he is a fucking birther, he called Mexicans rapists and drug dealers, he said an American-born judge couldn't do his job because of his Mexican heritage, he called Nazis very fine poeple, he endorsed Roy Moore, who thinks the last time America was great was during slavery, uses the racial slur Pocahontas...and on and on and on. 

 

Prayers from Chicago.

posted by superman

So for the last year, the left has been screaming about how inhumane it would be to send people back to these countries because they are so bad.  Now, that Trump calls them shitholes, the left has been talking about how great these places are and how he is a racist.

That's a good point. The polarity is unreasonably extreme.

I guess I just figured he got health department reports on some of his hotels and other properties and was just projecting his anger at their findings upon other countries.

posted by superman

So for the last year, the left has been screaming about how inhumane it would be to send people back to these countries because they are so bad.  Now, that Trump calls them shitholes, the left has been talking about how great these places are and how he is a racist.

Kind of like how the right was super-concerned with how much time a president spent at the golf course until the beginning of last year?

posted by gut

I would say it was far more elitist than racist, because he also talked about merit.  Basically he's saying the poor and uneducated should go to the back of the line, and maybe that those who will further burden our social/entitlement programs shouldn't be allowed in at all.

It's a brutally honest reality that Durbin is a real shithead for disclosing.

Of couuurrsseeee, it's not a problem that the president supposedly called a bunch of countries shitholes, the problem is that someone else at the meeting confirmed that he said it.

Interesting that he called out Haiti, but not the Dominican Republic. Aren’t there black  people living there, on the opposite end of the same island?

posted by fish82

Interesting that he called out Haiti, but not the Dominican Republic. Aren’t there black  people living there, on the opposite end of the same island?

South Korea is most certainly not a shithole, while North Korea certainly is. The DR is a very nice place.

posted by queencitybuckeye

South Korea is most certainly not a shithole, while North Korea certainly is. The DR is a very nice place.

And Trump has business in the DR. 

posted by Heretic

Kind of like how the right was super-concerned with how much time a president spent at the golf course until the beginning of last year?

Exactly like that. 

posted by Heretic

Of couuurrsseeee, it's not a problem that the president supposedly called a bunch of countries shitholes, the problem is that someone else at the meeting confirmed that he said it.

Yes, it is a problem.  One you're apparently blind to becauseof your hatred for the POTUS.  It's a private conversation, and likely privileged. They are shithole countries, and Durbin made it an official public statement.  Total dickhead, partisan move.  Trump can be an asshole for saying and believing it, while Durbin can still an asshole for how he handled it.

In the typical trainwreck/sensationalist coverage of this, everyone seems to be ignoring how Durbin made a huge break with protocol.  Closed door negotiations are rarely discussed publicly, and it's EXTREMELY rare to directly attribute comments to anyone, much less the POTUS.  That those conversations "don't leave the room" is critical to open and honest communications to progress toward compromise - Durbin just took a giant crap on that and no one cares?

As for "racist", Trump is just whining about the imbalance (real or imagined) between poor and uneducated immigrants from 3rd world countries vs. those from developed OECD countries.  I don't know if there actually is an imbalance (I doubt it), but it's hardly a position without merit, much less racist.

posted by gut

Yes, it is a problem.  One you're apparently blind to becauseof your hatred for the POTUS.  It's a private conversation, and likely privileged. They are shithole countries, and Durbin made it an official public statement.  Total dickhead, partisan move.  Trump can be an asshole for saying and believing it, while Durbin can still an asshole for how he handled it.

In the typical trainwreck/sensationalist coverage of this, everyone seems to be ignoring how Durbin made a huge break with protocol.  Closed door negotiations are rarely discussed publicly, and it's EXTREMELY rare to directly attribute comments to anyone, much less the POTUS.  That those conversations "don't leave the room" is critical to open and honest communications to progress toward compromise - Durbin just took a giant crap on that and no one cares?

As for "racist", Trump is just whining about the imbalance (real or imagined) between poor and uneducated immigrants from 3rd world countries vs. those from developed OECD countries.  I don't know if there actually is an imbalance (I doubt it), but it's hardly a position without merit, much less racist.

We’re into a new age when people cast a person as Trump as a victim. As in, poor guy thought he was talking in private. This guy’s not just a raging asshole, he’s a fucking idiot if he thinks he can talk to a congretinal delegation in the Oval Office like this. He does this shit to shock people and the gets off watching them react. Classic bully move. He is a sick man.  

posted by Heretic

Of couuurrsseeee, it's not a problem that the president supposedly called a bunch of countries shitholes, the problem is that someone else at the meeting confirmed that he said it.

Gut cracks me up. Always defends trump and other republicans, but refuses to call himself one. Lol

posted by Heretic

Of couuurrsseeee, it's not a problem that the president supposedly called a bunch of countries shitholes, the problem is that someone else at the meeting confirmed that he said it.

Actually so far everyone else at the meeting has denied hearing any such comment. 

And as a reminder, Durban is the one that said a republican senator said they “couldn’t even look at Obama” in a similar closed door meeting

The Obama admin and everyone else at the meeting denied it happened. 

He has a past of making crap up against Rs out of closed door meetings.