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gut Senior Member
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Fri, Feb 16, 2018 1:50 PM

13 Russian nationals and 3 companies (or something like that) indicted for influence/meddling in the election.

"organized rallies supporting the President Elect, while simultaneously organizing rallies protesting the election".  Or EXACTLY like I said months ago.  Who won didn't matter - they were going to sow discontent regardless. 

"No allegation in the indictment of the outcome of the election" - in other words, they may have tried to influence the outcome but there's no proof they did or were successful.

But this is very interesting.  It would SEEM to be good for Trump.  It's also a surprise (at least to me) that this is coming out of the Mueller investigation.  I'll guess the Repubs say this is a sign things are wrapping up, while Dems will say this is the hook before the big fish comes.

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Fri, Feb 16, 2018 2:04 PM

Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein said Friday that no Americans were ‘knowing’ participants in the alleged election interference by 13 Russians detailed in a new indictment, and there is no allegation the meddling affected the 2016 race. 

More on this: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/16/13-russian-nationals-indicted-for-interfering-in-us-elections.html

 
MontyBrunswick Senior Member
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Fri, Feb 16, 2018 2:05 PM

the indictments didnt mention how their operations were funded. i'll bet that comes out in the next indictment 
gut Senior Member
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Fri, Feb 16, 2018 2:18 PM
posted by MontyBrunswick

the indictments didnt mention how their operations were funded. i'll bet that comes out in the next indictment 

It also mentioned there were campaign contacts, but those people thought they were dealing with American entities.  They didn't say WHICH campaign, though - I'll give you even odds it's BOTH the Trump and Clinton campaigns, and likely at least one or two others.
Spock Senior Member
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Fri, Feb 16, 2018 5:38 PM

this is a HUGE nothing Burger.  THese Russians will never see a US court.  THis is all smoke and mirrors to justify why this political witch hunt has lasted so long.

Sorry Dems, witch hunt on Trump is over.

 
gut Senior Member
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Fri, Feb 16, 2018 5:50 PM
posted by Spock

this is a HUGE nothing Burger.  THese Russians will never see a US court.  THis is all smoke and mirrors to justify why this political witch hunt has lasted so long.

Sorry Dems, witch hunt on Trump is over.

That's kind of my feeling.  Although I wouldn't call it a nothingburger - we DID know Russians interfered and attempted to influence the election.  But I would agree these indictments are more about attempting to justify the investigation (particularly when they refer to campaign member "unwittingly" connecting.....but not impact and no collusion, which was a key thing to go out of the way to say).

Otherwise, Congress has some work to do on those FISA warrants, and also the unmasking (especially Susan Powers).  Also, I think there may have been some libtards and never-Trumpers in the FBI who believed all the crap spewing from the mainstream media and decided they had a duty....
majorspark Senior Member
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Fri, Feb 16, 2018 7:03 PM

On a side not we recently sent about 100 Russians back to the motherland in body bags.

 
majorspark Senior Member
5,459 posts 38 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Feb 16, 2018 8:47 PM

I think the eighties are calling again and want their foreign policy back.
Spock Senior Member
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Fri, Feb 16, 2018 10:03 PM
posted by majorspark

I think the eighties are calling again and want their foreign policy back.

For sure.  I guess they arent the JV team anymore.  
superman Senior Member
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Sat, Feb 17, 2018 7:54 AM

So, if it's illegal for a foreign national to interfere in an election, when is Steele getting indicted?
Spock Senior Member
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Sat, Feb 17, 2018 8:00 AM
posted by superman

So, if it's illegal for a foreign national to interfere in an election, when is Steele getting indicted?

THat will be awesome TV.  He will bring down the CLintons
gut Senior Member
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Sat, Feb 17, 2018 9:40 AM
posted by superman

So, if it's illegal for a foreign national to interfere in an election, when is Steele getting indicted?

That's actually a good question.  I'm not sure, but I think I read that he allegedly lied to the FBI (about talking to the media, which he was fired for).  So he's at least committed that crime (same one Flynn was charged with).

Really interested to see what develops in the next few weeks and months.  They've now established the crime and indicted those people.  The next step would be linking Trump's team for collusion, EXCEPT they specifically said the American contacts had no idea they were dealing with Russian operatives.

So it sure looks like the collusion story is over (as most non-libtards suspected from the beginning), and so Mueller should be done.  Unless, of course, he's moved on to other crimes, such as obstructing a politically motivated witch hunt.
CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
7,259 posts 50 reps Joined Nov 2009
Sat, Feb 17, 2018 10:22 AM

At the end of the day none of this really matters. There are still millions and millions of people who have been led to believe (and still will) that Trump was in cahoots with the Russians (THE RED SCARE!!!!) to win this election. Not only that but that everybody on his team is a dastardly son of a bitch that do nothing all day but beat/rape women, shoot Mexicans and have KKK rallies. They believe it! 

I'm waiting on the accusations to roll in that Trump is selling arms and trading in narcotics with Mexico in order to get them to agree with partially paying for the wall lol! (who knows, he might!)

Meanwhile these people who believe all of these things about Trump will still be proud of the fact that they voted for Hillary:

- protected and colluded with her husband, the sexual predator of women (assault, rape, etc.)

- propogated and was complicit in the explosion of the industrial prison complex  -  the by-product was massive incarceration of millions of black people; remember young black men in inner cities are super predators

-was, until very recently against gay marriage

- stole from the WH and various other countries and organizations

Pretty much everything that they have accused Trump of doing/being, Hillary has already done. Hates women, hates teh gays, hates black people, etc. But because they are so deranged about Trump they will ignore the fact that they voted for the filthy scumbage who predated Trump in every accusation in EVERY way. 
 

 

 
gut Senior Member
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Sat, Feb 17, 2018 10:35 AM

If Bill and Hillary had been Republicans no one could imagine the amount of hatred and vitriol that would be directed at her.....I would bet it would be worse than with Trump.
QuakerOats Senior Member
11,701 posts 66 reps Joined Nov 2009
Sat, Feb 17, 2018 11:52 AM
posted by Spock

THat will be awesome TV.  He will bring down the CLintons

Well we know Seth Rich can't.
QuakerOats Senior Member
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Sat, Feb 17, 2018 11:59 AM

https://lawandcrime.com/opinion/does-mueller-indictment-mean-clinton-campaign-can-be-indicted-for-chris-steele/

 

 
gut Senior Member
18,369 posts 115 reps Joined Nov 2009
Sat, Feb 17, 2018 1:41 PM
posted by QuakerOats

https://lawandcrime.com/opinion/does-mueller-indictment-mean-clinton-campaign-can-be-indicted-for-chris-steele/

I've been saying for almost a year, since it was first reported about the Dossier and Clinton/DNC connections, that this is the REAL collusion and potential criminality.  

You have money being laundered thru a law firm, thru Fusion GPS, thru Steele to Russian operatives.  All those layers make it hard to get to Clinton/DNC, but you start by indicting Steele and work backwards.

And you have the FBI paying Steele, using his bad intel....there are major, MAJOR questions that need to be investigated and answered.  Every day that goes by this whole thing DOES look like a major bombshell, just not the one the media has been hoping for and reporting on.

Way more real smoke here on Clinton, DNC and the Obama Admin/DOJ than we ever saw with Trump....and the reaction of the liberals is "meh.....nothing to see here.....BUT TRUMP WON'T SIGN RUSSIA SANCTIONS!!!!!!!"
QuakerOats Senior Member
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Tue, Feb 20, 2018 2:03 PM

CNNMSNBC PUSHED RUSSIA-SPONSORED RALLY... 

Michael Moore Participated?

 

 

 

The irony is immeasurable
QuakerOats Senior Member
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Thu, Feb 22, 2018 11:14 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

not a witch hunt
Spock Senior Member
5,271 posts 9 reps Joined Jul 2013
Thu, Feb 22, 2018 11:16 AM

with the lack of evidence and the useless findings on 13 Russians that will never see a day in court...Trump missed his chance to shut this thing down.  He could of done that last week and the news cycle would have moved on already.

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